"Real, no nonsense, intelligent, friendly, not fake, can laugh at herself, a real go-getter but may be a little shy. Not afraid to get out there and try something new. Definitely not your average woman. Probably someone you don’t want to make angry. She has a sparkle in her eyes when you talk bikes."
I just described to you Clarissa Winchester, the newest “Woman Rider of The Quarter.” I met Clarissa late last year when I was riding at a rally in Tennessee. She was definitely a force to be reckoned with, but I mean that in a good way. She is a talented, yet modest individual. While getting to know her during the rally, I was able to get her to share with me some of her passions. Of course she loves riding her Indian Scout, but her true love(s) is first and foremost her children and grandchildren. In her younger days (Clarissa is in her mid-forties) she worked as a nurse in Missouri. Needing a change of scenery and career (we all know nursing is a demanding and draining vocation), she decided to move to Tennessee where she could raise her children in quiet and solitude. She also decided on a change in careers. Today Clarissa works at General Motors building V8 engines that go into Chevy and GMC trucks. That’s a huge change from her prior career, but given the fact that she likes to work on her bike, it’s not surprising. Clarissa is also a talented photographer. All of the photos I’m sharing in this post were taken by her, and they are stunning.
Clarissa has been riding since 2019, and you can tell by watching her that it is something she was meant to do. Her love of the open road while traveling on a motorcycle is ever so apparent. She is very enthusiastic when talking about riding and when talking about her 2021 Indian Scout Icon. I was so happy that she was more than willing to be interviewed and let us all know a little bit about her personal life and her motorcycle journey thus far.
This is my interview with Clarissa Winchester
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"I’ve always had an interest in knowing how my bike works no matter the make or model. I believe you need to be able to troubleshoot any issues that might come up while you’re out on the road."
On choosing an Indian over a Harley Davidson:
"You know everyone has a “Harley.” I wanted to stand out a bit from the crowd."
TWR: Clarissa, thanks so much for taking the time to talk with me today. Would you mind first telling us a little bit about yourself? Are you married, do you have children? What do you do for a living?
CW: Okay sure. Well I am not married. I have three amazing kids (two daughters and a son) and three grandchildren. I work in the car industry at General Motors. Prior to that job I was a nurse. When I moved to Tennessee I decided to change careers. So now I build truck engines.
TWR: Where are you from?
CW: I am originally from Sikeston, Missouri, which is a very small town in the south eastern part of that state. I moved to Lewisburg, Tennessee in 2010 and that is where I now call home. I really love it here. If I’m not working then I am outdoors usually riding. This state is beautiful and has a lot to offer.
TWR: When did you first start riding a motorcycle?
CW: I first started riding my own bike in 2019. Prior to that, I always rode pillion.
TWR: What was your first bike?
CW: My first bike was a 2005 Honda Shadow 750. I am vertically challenged being only 5'3" tall. So the bike was perfect for me to start out on. It was fully dressed out and it looked really nice. It was a good bike.
TWR: Tell me about your initial experience starting out.
CW: Sure, so growing up I rode manual four-wheelers. I always loved the way I felt as a kid riding them. I loved the freedom of being able to go and explore. By that time I already knew when I was older and could buy a motorcycle, I would be getting one. Life doesn’t always go as planned when you are young. I started my family in my early twenties so I made the decision to wait until my youngest was old enough to take care of himself. I did that in the event anything happened to me. In 2019 my son was 17 years old going on 18, so I decided the time was right to start researching different bikes. I then started going to dealerships to physically look at them. After a few months I knew that a Honda Shadow might be a good starter bike for me. As it happened, a friend of mine told me their son had a fully loaded beautiful bike he had decided to sell to upgrade his own ride. So I checked it out and his bike fit me perfectly. It was the right height, right weight, I could flat foot the bike and it was well maintained. It ended up being the perfect starter bike for me. He brought it over, I jumped on and started riding and bought it. It was a good bike. I eventually traded it in for my current ride, a 2021 Indian Scout Icon and I absolutely love it.
TWR: Was there any special reason you decided to start riding your own bike?
CW: Thinking about it, I’d have to say that the reason I started riding a motorcycle was because I wanted to have accomplished something that's not necessarily “the norm” for a woman to do. While I realize today more and more women are riding their own bikes, and every year we add to our numbers, it's still not as common to see a woman riding a motorcycle as it is a man. I like being part of a "special group” lets just say.
TWR: Let’s talk a little bit about your mechanical aptitude. You like to wrench on your own bike don’t you?
CW: Yes I do, but let me say first that I am very independent and don’t like to rely on anyone but myself. Keeping that in mind, I’ve always had an interest in knowing how my bike works no matter the make or model. I love getting my hands on the bike, changing the oil and making sure all my fluids are full. It’s important to know how to check that stuff and just make sure everything is tightened up and running properly. It’s empowering to me. Even doing the simple maintenance work on it allows me to understand the bike better and be more prepared if an issue does arise. Also, I think it’s very important to know the mechanics of your bike and how it works. Even if you never plan to work on your bike, you should get familiar with the mechanics of it, especially if you are planning on riding long distances. I believe you need to be able to troubleshoot any issues that might come up while you’re out on the road. So again, it’s important to know and understand your bike regardless of working on it yourself or not. The last reason I really like working on my bike is because my son eventually plans on getting his own bike, and when he does, I want to be able to work on it with him and teach him a few things about motorcycles.
Enjoying the beautiful mountain roads in her home state!
TWR: What is longest distance you have ridden either by yourself or with a group?
CW: The longest distance I’ve ever ridden was with my friend Wolf. We rode the back roads from my house to Panama City, FL to go to Thunder Beach Bike Rally. Round trip that ride was 856 miles in total. By myself I’ve ridden to Tunica, MS. Round trip that ride was about 510 miles.
TWR: Do you ride with any female riding group(s)?
CW: As of right now I am not a member of a particular riding group. I really enjoy riding with just a couple of my friends or solo.
TWR: Do you have a favorite riding destination?
CW: I do. I love riding to Ozone Falls in Rockwood, TN. I go there using only back roads and it’s a beautiful all day ride. I also enjoy riding Natchez Trace Parkway. I’ve ridden it all the way up to Nashville, TN and all the way down to Tupelo, MS.
TRW: Do you have a bucket list of rides and if so, what is the top ride on your list that you have yet to complete?
CW: Wow where to begin! I have so many rides on my bucket list. I’d have to say that the “Nada Tunnel” in Kentucky is one on the top of my list. It’s also known as the Eye of the Dragon. Of course I’d also like to ride the “Tail of the Dragon” in North Carolina, “Devils Triangle” in Tennessee, “The Snake” in Tennessee, the part of “The Blue Ridge Parkway” in Virginia, and the very top of my bucket list is the longest route I want to do, "Route 66" starting in Chicago and riding it all the way to the end at Santa Monica Pier in California.
TWR: How would you describe the women’s motorcycle riding community in your area?
CW: In my particular area of Tennessee I don’t really see very many women riding their own bikes. Mostly in this area are women who enjoy riding as passengers. Once you start getting into the more urban areas of Tennessee, like closer to Murfreesboro and Nashville, that’s when you’ll see more women riding.
TWR: Earlier you said you ride a 2021 Indian Scout Icon. Can you tell us what made you decide on an Indian over other bikes?
CW: When I started looking for a new bike, again I am a big researcher so I looked at a lot of bikes online, I compared the choices available. I was looking specifically at their weight, the center of gravity, handling and dependability. Also, I was looking to upgrade to a larger motor. I wanted more horse-power because when I do ride with my friends, I need to be able to keep up with them. I narrowed it down between the new Honda Rebel which was 1100 cc’s, and the Indian Scout which is 1200 cc’s. The Honda Rebel ended up being a much smaller bike than I was comfortable on. I also looked at a Harley, but you know everyone has a “Harley.” I wanted to stand out a bit from the crowd. So I decided to go and check out Indians. I saw my bike online and I went to the dealership. When I got there, I sat on it and said “I’m taking it home!” I rode it home that day. To be frank, this bike not only checked all my blocks but it fit “me” right from the very start.
TWR: Since you started riding has your life changed in any way from how it was before?
CW: Since I’ve started riding, I have found that my life has become much less stressful and I have less anxiety. Riding really is a cheap form of therapy. All you need is a bike, a tank of gas and a country road. Even 30 minutes on my bike helps me de-stress from my day. I just love the feeling of freedom that riding gives me.
TWR: What advice would you give to any woman who is contemplating getting out there on her own bike?
CW: I would say to her not to overthink it. Don’t let anybody tell you that you can’t do it and find a bike that perfectly fits you. Then enjoy the ride.
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TWR: I want to thank Clarrisa Winchester for letting me get to know her and sharing her journey with us. Clarrisa’s story is a great example of moving forward, making changes that may seem a little scary, and eventually going for what you want.
Loving her Indian Scout Icon!
When I texted Vernice and asked her if she would be my featured "Woman Rider of the Quarter," she was very happy and willing to share her story and help empower other women to get out there and ride. But first before we get to the interview, let me tell you how I met my new friend Vernice Grissom-Green.
It was the first week of October 2022. My girlfriends and I wanted to get in a long distance ride before winter so we rode the 600 miles to Murfreesboro, Tennessee to attend the "Women Rock Rally." We checked into our hotel, got our stuff up to our room and went to bed. We were exhausted. The next morning we headed downstairs to grab some breakfast. Women were just starting to arrive for the weekend. The breakfast area in the hotel was busy.
One of the ladies in particular was hugging and greeting people. She was very tall, extremely friendly, laughing, and very happy to see everyone. I would later learn her name was Vernice.
I ate my breakfast while observing the crowd. It was clear there was excitement in the air. After a while women slowly cleared the area and breakfast was pretty much over. My friends however, were still chatting with a few people they'd just met. I looked over and saw the woman I had seen earlier, sitting alone at a table eating. So many people had stopped her to say hello and give her a hug, that she was just now finishing her breakfast.
I can't exactly explain it, but I knew I had to meet her. So I decided to walk over to her table and introduce myself. "Hi, I'm La'Rae. I don't mean to bother you, but I thought I'd come over and introduce myself." Once again her breakfast was interrupted but you could tell that she really didn't mind. She looked at me, smiled and said, "Hi, I'm Vernice."
After we talked for a bit I explained to her that I'd never been to a "weekend rally" and really didn't know what to expect. Vernice immediately put me at ease. It turned out she was also a volunteer and knew the schedule for the entire weekend. Throughout the weekend Vernice was there helping out wherever they needed, giving me tips on the upcoming rides, and answering questions from other women riders. You can tell by watching Vernice interact with others that she is a very caring and very genuine person. I was fortunate to get to know her a bit during the festivities. She even joined my friends and I on a quick shopping excursion, jumping on the back of a Can-Am and navigating the way for us while we tried to figure out where we were going in rush hour traffic.
The last thing I will share with you about Vernice is how impressed I was by her level of riding skills. When you see Vernice riding, you can tell she is very at ease on her Road Glide As she maneuvers the bike down the road, it's apparent that Vernice is definitely in her element.
This is my interview with Vernice Grissom-Green.
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TWR: Vernice, it is so good to talk with you again. I have really been looking forward to this. How are you doing?
VGG: It's good talking to you too. I'm doing great. It's a new year and we are all well. Thank you for having me as your featured Woman Rider of the Quarter.
TWR: Well let's jump right into it because I know you're busy and your schedule is fairly packed these days. The first thing I like to do is give the readers just a little background information. Is that okay?
VGG: Sure.
TWR All right, where are you originally from and where do you call home now? And if you don't mind will you tell the readers a little bit about your family?
VGG: Ok. I was born and raised in Indiana. I've lived here all my life. I'm married to my amazing husband and together we have two grown sons. We are also the proud grandparents of two wonderful grandchildren.
TWR: Can you tell us what you do for a living or if you are retired?
VGG: Oh sure. I am not retired yet, I'm still a little too young for that (she giggles.) I currently work in management at a consulting firm.
TWR: Okay let's talk about your motorcycle journey. What do you currently ride?When did you first start riding? How old were you? What drew you to riding a motorcycle?
VGG: I currently ride a 2019 Road Glide. Thinking about my motorcycle journey, now that's interesting how I got here. Prior to riding on my own, I would ride on the back of my husband's bike. But I really didn't like being a passenger. It just didn't feel right. You know I'm fairly tall at 5'11, so being on the back seat just always felt uncomfortable. How did I first start riding? Well my husband and I were getting ready to be empty nesters and we were trying to figure out a hobby or something that we could do together. That's when my husband encouraged me to take the Motorcycle Safety Foundation course offered through ABATE of Indiana, and start riding my own bike. We decided it would be fun and something we could do together. He even said he'd take the course with me. Back when he first started riding you didn't need to pass a motorcycle safety course to get an endorsement. So he took it with me and I passed. I was 43 years old when I started riding. That was in 2010 and I've been riding ever since.
TWR: What was the very first bike you ever owned?
VGG: My very first bike was a 2011 Harley Davidson Street Glide.
TWR: Really. That's a big bike to start out on. What made you choose a big bagger touring bike like that?
VGG: I know it is a big bike to start out on and for many women I wouldn't necessarily recommend it. But again, keep in mind that I am 5'11". I needed a bike that was going to fit my height and frame. I knew what wasn't comfortable for me so when I got on the Street Glide it just felt right. I knew it was exactly what I needed. It just "fit" me.
Also, I prefer a touring bike over all others because I ride a lot and cover a huge amount of distance when I ride so I wanted a bike that is both comfortable to ride along with it's performance. I already have nearly 50,000 miles on my 2019 Road Glide.
Loving sun, sea and the ride!
TWR: Wow that's a good amount of mileage already for your bike. I can unstand why comfort is important to you. Tell me what is the farthest you have ever ridden either in a group or alone.
VGG: The farthest I have ever ridden in a group was from Indiana to Oakland, CA. That trip was about 4,500 miles in total. We rode to the Bessie Stringfield All Female Ride. It was a long ride but I had a great time doing it.
Now the farthest I've ever ridden on my own is to Jacksonville, Florida for the" All Female Ride" hosted by Jenn Brew and Adamec Harley Davidson. Total miles round trip for that ride was about 1700.
TWR: Those are really good, long distance rides. That explains why you already have 50,000 miles on your bike. Tell me, do you have any favorite riding destinations?
VGG: Absolutely. My favorites are anywhere the sun is shining and the road is open.
TWR: Do you have any "bucket list" rides?
VGG: Of course. I think once you start riding distances you start making a list of places you want to ride. Everyone does it. My list is very fluid and continues to grow but a few of the places I'd like to ride include Redwood National Forest, the Dignity statue in South Dakota, a ride to the waterfalls in the Carolinas.
TWR: I agree with you on a rider's bucket list. We are always adding places we want to go. I've been to the Dignity statue. She's really a spectacular sight and I would encourage any rider to try to get there. It's a beautiful ride.
TWR: Recently you participated and were a volunteer at the "Women Rock Rally" in Tennessee. Can you tell me a little bit about your involvement with that particular event?
VGG: Sure, so the first time I attended the "Women Rock Rally" was in 2019. I wanted to get in a good ride before the end of the riding season. Round trip it would be just under 800 miles. Also, I thought it would be a great way to meet other women riders. So I decided to go and ride to Tennessee by myself. When I got to the rally everyone was so welcoming and friendly. I just really enjoyed the entire weekend. After that experience, I decided I wanted to get more involved with the rally. The "Women Rock Rally" is an event with the purpose of raising money to support breast cancer awareness and research. It's a cause I fully believe in so I decided to get more involved. It's also a great way to end my riding season each year.
TWR: So let me ask you, do you ride with any riding groups?
VGG: No, I am not a member of any specific women only riding groups or motorcycle clubs. I am a member of the Harley Davidson Owners Group and a member of the Indianapolis Southside local chapter. I keep my Harley membership so I can get some of the mileage riding patches and some of the other member benefits. But in general I do not ride with any large riding groups. I don't really enjoy it. I prefer to ride solo or with a much smaller group of friends. However, we keep those rides to a minimum number of bikers. I'd say five to six riders max is our usual.
TWR: Since starting your riding journey, how has it changed your life? In other words, has riding enriched your life in any manner and if so, how?
VGG: Here's what I would say to that, I love my life. I have an amazing family. I have a wonderful supportive husband who encourages me to go on my adventures and check off rides from my bucket list. But the "riding" is my release. If I am stressed from my daily grind of corporate life, hopping on my bike and riding is where I find my peace.
TWR: Is there any one woman you could say is, or has had the most influence on you with respect to your riding and why?
VGG: Well I would have to say of course the women rider trailblazers like Gloria Struck and Bessie Stringfield, just for the fact that they helped open up the way for women riders.
TWR: Vernice what advice would you give to any woman who is thinking about learning to ride or has just started riding?
VGG: I would tell her to first take the Motorcycle Safety Foundation course. If your state doesn't require it, find one anyway and take it. Then I would say to take your time choosing your bike and make sure it fits.
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TWR: I want to thank Vernice for taking the time to discuss her motorcycle journey with us. If you have read any of the past articles in the Archive section of the website you will find that while every woman's motorcycle journey is bit different, we are all bonded by one common factor, we simply love to ride.
Vernice slaying the Dragon!
I got to know Rosemarie (Rosie) Setta Strother in the summer of 2020 during the Women's Freedom Ride (WFR), an annual event bringing together women riders from all over the country. The women ride in formation for twenty days through twenty states with a purpose. Their "mission" is to raise public awareness of the alarming numbers of veterans’ suicides occurring daily after returning home from combat, and to raise money for use in helping veterans struggling with PTSD, Rosie decided that this was absolutely a ride she wanted to make. Its purpose clearly resonated with her. You see Rosie is an army veteran, having served in the Army, Women's Army Corp. back in the late 70's. Back then Rosie was stationed at Fort Riley, Kansas located in the northeaster Kansas. Being from Pittsburgh, PA, you could bet Kansas was just a little bit different from the big city. While stationed at Fort Riley Rosie met the love of her life, Tony Strother. Together they have both served in the military, traveled overseas, moved dozens of times, raised a family, and enjoyed each other's company for more than forty years. Rosie tells me it was Tony who encouraged her to take the Motorcycle Safety Foundation course and get her license. But you'll learn more about that while reading her interview. I've had the pleasure of knowing Rosie and riding on several group rides with her for the last two years and I've been wanting to do this interview for some time. You see Rosie has only been riding for about three years. She began this journey when she turned 61, and I believe that her taking on this journey and traveling all over the country via her Can-Am Spyder RTL, serves as an inspiration to all women, especially women starting in their "second" chapter. My hope is that Rosie's story will inspire women of all ages who are thinking about getting a bike but maybe feeling a little intimidated, to get out there and just do it.
This is my interview with Rosemarie "Rosie" Setta Strother.
TWR: Rosie, it's so great to talk with you today and have you share your story with all the readers of the site. Thank you so much for allowing us to pry a little bit into your riding background.
RS: Absolutely! I love the idea of helping empower women by sharing my story. Riding a motorcycle has become an integral part of my life and who I am. I've made so many new friendships over the past couple of years and it's all because of my love for riding.
TWR: Ok Rosie, let's give our readers a little more information about you and your background if you don't mind. Where do you call home and if you don't mind, tell us a little bit about your family?
RS: Well let's see, I grew up in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Our family moved to North Carolina where I finished high school. Then a couple years after graduation I joined the Army, Women's Army Corp. and was stationed at Fort Riley, Kansas. Back then in the 70's women didn't fight on the front line. The Vietnam war had just officially ended. Men joined the Army and women joined the Women's Army Corps. I worked as a telecommunications center specialist. That's where I met my husband Tony. He was in the Army too. When we decided to start our family, I got out of the Army to raise the kids and be at home with them until I could go back to work. It was a wonderful life. We were stationed at many posts in the United States and we did two tours in Germany. When Tony retired from the Army, we decided to make Durham, NC our home. Tony and I have raised two amazing children and we are the lucky grandparents to five grandchildren and one great-grandchild. This September Tony and I will celebrate 46 years of marriage.
TWR: Wow, that's awesome. Forty-six years of marriage is definitely something to celebrate. Congratulations!
RS: Thank you.
TWR: Okay Rosie, let's talk motorcycles. Have they always been a part of your life?
RS: Well yes and no. When I was a kid, my dad had a Honda 350 and I loved to ride on the back with him. Later on my dad bought a Honda 750. After I married Tony, my dad decided his Honda was too big and it was time for him to stop riding. Tony and I had his bike for a bit of time while we helped him sell it. We loved riding that bike and would have bought it from him but it wasn't practical for us with Tony's career and us having to move so much. So that was the bulk of our biking experience until about thirty years or so down the road. We became good friends with a few folks that own motorcycles. I would steal a ride now and then on the back of one of their bikes. Eventually Tony and I decided we wanted to start riding again and that's how we got back into motorcycles.
TWR: Okay so when did you start riding on your own?
RS: I started riding in 2019. It's actually a funny story how I got there.
TWR: Great, let's hear it.
RS: Okay, so sometime in 2018 Tony decided he wanted to start riding again (for the readers Tony now rides an Indian Roadmaster). I was all for it but the only problem was he'd let his motorcycle endorsement lapse. So that required him to retake the Motorcycle Safety Foundations (MFS) course. Tony suggested that I take it with him. He thought it would be fun for us to do it together and it would definitely give us a common hobby. Now what I need to tell you is that during this time I had been having hip issues and could barely walk. In fact I was scheduled to have hip surgery in December. So on the "inside" I'm thinking to myself, "my husband has gone mad. I can barely walk right now." But on the "outside" I politely declined his request and reminded him that I was having trouble walking. He looked right at me with a straight face and said, "That's okay honey you don't have to walk, you just need to ride. You can do this. It will be fun!" So I took the course with him and you know what? He was right. I passed the MSF course with no problems and got my motorcycle endorsement.
TWR: So tell us what was your first bike, and what made you decide to choose that bike as your first ride?
RS: My first bike is also my current ride, a 2016 Can-Am Spyder RTL. Let me tell you I love this bike. I had decided on riding a 3-wheel motorcycle from the get-go for a couple of reasons. First, after taking the class with Tony I had so much fun being in the front of the bike I knew I wanted my own ride but I am "vertically" challenged at only 5'2". So I knew I was only going to have a few choices without spending a ton of money to lower a bike so I could be flat footed on the ground. Second, I was also worried about being able to hold it up after just having two hip replacements and knew I didn't want a heavy bike. But I needed to have a bike with enough horsepower to keep up with Tony's Indian. That meant getting a 3-wheeled motorcycle.
TWR: Why did you choose a Can-Am Spyder RTL over a traditional trike?
RS: Well-I first started researching both types of bikes. I read a lot of rider reviews as to the different models of trikes. Then an old army buddy of ours who rides a Harley suggested the Can-Am. He said that based on what I was looking for, the stability of the front end as well as the overall comfort of the bike, it would probably be a good match for me. So I decided to schedule a test ride on a Spyder I had found was for sale. I wanted to take a ride on one just to be sure before I went to the Harley dealership to take a test ride on a trike. Well-let me tell you, as soon as I pulled out on the road with the Can-Am I fell in love. I was so surprised at how stable it felt and I was immediately at ease on the bike. It was super comfortable for me, it felt good on the road, and it was really easy for me to get on and off the bike. Also, it definitely had the horsepower I was looking for. I didn't even go to the Harley dealership. I knew this was absolutely the right bike for me.
TWR: Rosie it's pretty clear you started riding later in life. You referenced previously that once you took the class you knew you wanted to be in the front of a bike riding. Was there any other reason that nudged you toward that decision?
RS: You know I would have to say that the main reason I wanted to start riding my own bike was a desire to do something just for me. I was 61 years old, and like many other women had given so much to raising my family and serving my country that I really wanted to do something new and exciting just for me. It's funny because I was always known in my family as being "the safe sibling." I'd never really done anything too daring. So, as a result of that my two sisters thought I had lost my mind. But my children thought it was awesome, and my mother was very much on board with my decision to ride. Of course I am fortunate to have a husband who encourages me to do things out of my comfort zone. So I jumped on and have been having a ball ever since.
TWR: Rosie because I know you, I know you ride a lot. Will you share with the readers what the farthest distance is you have ridden either on your own or with a group, and where did you ride to?
RS: The farthest I have ever ridden was with the Women's Freedom Ride. That was with a group of about 60 women. I ended up riding a total of 8000 miles during that trip. By myself the farthest I've ridden is about 1200 miles. I was returning home from a group ride. We rode from North Carolina to the Florida Keys. From there I rode solo to San Angelo, TX then on to Denison, TX. In Denison I met up with the other girls from the ride again. Eventually we split up and went our separate ways back to our homes.
TWR: Do you have any favorite riding destinations and if so why?
RS: I would have to say that my favorite destination is riding in the mountains and what I enjoy so much about it is simply the hills, the curves and the views. It's always breathtaking no matter which mountains you are riding.
TWR: Do you ride with any riding groups?
RS: I do. I am part of Women In The Wind, International. My local chapter is the Gypsy Diamonds. I also ride with the Women's Freedom Ride. I am also a member of the Combat Veterans Motorcycle Association, and I ride with the Indian Motorcycle Riding Group, IMRG. Even though I don't ride an Indian I get to be a part of that because my husband rides an Indian Roadmaster and he's part of the group.
TWR: That’s a lot of groups, I've got to ask you why so many?
RS: I know it's a lot of riding organization’s and each takes up a bit of my time. But you know, it's something I really enjoy and each one serves a different purpose. All of them do some form of charity work whether that's giving of your time or riding to raise money. My husband and I ride with the veteran’s group because we enjoy the camaraderie of our brothers and sisters in arms, and we organize charity events as a way to help other veterans.
Women In The Wind is a woman’s riding group. It fosters sisterhood among women riders. When you are part of a local chapter, you always have someone to ride with. But it's much more than that. It's a sisterhood. My particular chapter is spread between many states. That's why we call ourselves the "Gypsy Diamonds." We plan rides several times a year and have monthly zoom meetings. I have made friendships with women all over the country because of being a member of this group.
The Women's Freedom Ride is an annual ride during the summer and get together in the fall. It was started as a way to empower women riders and give them an annual journey and purpose. In the summer we ride for charity. Every fall we meet in the mountains for fellowship and to ride. Any woman who rides is invited to come and it doesn't matter what type of bike you own. It's a wonderful way to meet new women riders, hear their stories and forge new friendships.
I participate in the Indian Motorcycle Riding Group, IMRG to ride with my husband and because I enjoy everyone in the group. They always plan great rides.
TWR: Since starting your riding, how has it changed your life? In other words, has riding enriched your life in any manner and if so, how?
RS: Wow what a great question. I would say that riding has allowed me to travel to places and see things much differently from than I used to. I've always enjoyed traveling but you really see things from a different perspective when you see it from the front of a motorcycle. I guess you could say you see "more." Also when I'm riding I get an immediate sense of peace and happiness. Honestly, I'm a really happy person generally, but riding just fills’ me up. I would also say that because of my involvement with motorcycling I have met an entirely new and different group of women who have a different sense of adventure. That helped me to find a sense of adventure in myself that I never knew I had. Riding has also given me a different sense of self as well. I feel very "whole" now. And finally, riding has also helped me connect with my husband in a very special way. We have a common interest and hobby that we enjoy doing together. A lot of couples start getting bored with each other after many years together or just kind of go through the motions. For us, riding together has enhanced our zest for making new life experiences together.
TWR: Rosie what advice would you give to any woman who is contemplating learning to ride and getting out there on her own bike?
RS: That's easy, just do it! You really will have no regrets.
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TWR: I want to thank Rosie for taking time out of her day to speak with me. I hope her interview has been an inspiration to any woman wanting to get out there and as Rosie put it, "see things from a different perspective when you see it from the front of a motorcycle." It's time to get out there and take the first step to riding your own bike. No matter your age or height, or other physical limitation, where there's a will there's always a way. In Rosie's case she decided a 3-wheeled bike was best for her. And even though it's a 3-wheeled machine it takes a lot of skill to move that bike around the road. Rosie has become so comfortable riding her bike, she loads it up and pulls a motorcycle trailer behind her. A skill set not just anyone can do. Rosie's ability far surpasses some of those (dare I say men) who have been riding for many years. I know this for a fact because I have ridden on the back of her bike and taken pictures while she navigated the "Tail of the Dragon" in the Blue Ridge mountains. Let me tell you that's something I wouldn't do with just anyone!
Rosie on her 2016 Can-Am Spyder RTL
I had the pleasure of meeting Deb Foege in the fall of 2020 at the annual Women's Freedom Ride Fall Getaway held in Robbinsville, North Carolina. The fall getaway is just one of several events sponsored by WFR with a purpose to encourage women riders of all abilities to step outside of their comfort zone and choose to believe in themselves. It is this mission statement that drew Deb to attend the WFR event. When I first met Deb I was impressed by her knowledge and riding ability. Not only does she have skills, but also an infectious smile and an easy going and genuine personality. We struck up a conversation and became instant friends. Deb is not only a learning design and development consultant for corporate and government agencies, but she is the CEO and Chief Riding Coach for her company, Moto B.R.A.T. Academy, LLC. As the owner of this company she is always on the lookout for opportunities to enrich her students' riding experiences. She is extremely passionate about empowering women both on and off a bike. Teaching women to ride and gain the confidence and experience needed to ride a motorcycle is one way she is helping women to empower themselves. Deb believes confidence is a learned attribute, and skill coupled with confidence only comes with practice. No matter what it is you are doing, you must first learn the skill and then practice to the point where it becomes second nature. This is true no matter what you are trying to accomplish. Deb thinks too many women don't always have the access to an experienced rider who is willing to show them the fundamentals and teach the skills they need starting out. It is for that reason she started Moto B.R.A.T. Academy.
This is my interview with Deb Foege .
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TWR: Deb, I am so happy you were able to fit me into your busy schedule. Not only are you the owner of two very busy companies but you are a wife and a mother of two young children. I am so excited to share your story with our readers and other women riders.
DF: Thank you so much. I am really honored to share my story with your readers. As a female business owner and a fellow female rider, I believe it's important to take every opportunity available and get our message out to women who want to increase their riding skills or start riding. I want them to know that Moto B.R.A.T. Academy is here to support them and help demystify motorcycle riding and the industry.
TWR: Let's tell our readers a little bit about your background. Where you are from and when did you start riding.
DF: Absolutely. I'm originally from Long Island, New York however, for the last 14 years have called North Carolina home. I started "riding" when I was 10 years old. It's a pretty funny family story. One of my older brothers bought a 1980 Honda Express Moped, which I would jump on and ride around the neighborhood whenever my parents weren’t home. I never passed up a chance to ride it. Then when I was 12, my other brother bought a 1979 Honda CB 450. I would always beg him to take me on a ride whenever my mom wasn’t home because I wasn't really allowed to ride with him. My mother was especially adamant about that, but of course we rode anyway. It was our little "secret" back then. By the time I was 13 years old I was able to talk my parents into letting me buy a moped, a 1984 Honda Spree. (She laughs and tells me, "We have pictures. They're hilarious and cute at the same time. I really thought I was such a "badass” riding that thing.) By the time I turned 16 and got my driver permit, I gave up my moped, but I never forgot about motorcycles, believing one day I would have one. I always knew my mother was not on board with my desire to ride. In her opinion only men rode motorcycles. Understandably, my mother grew up in an era when most women didn't ride motorcycles so she really couldn't grasp my love of riding. She's now accepted the fact that this was not a phase for me, but she still doesn’t love that I ride, more out of concern for my safety than any other reason. You know I'm always going to be her baby girl.
TWR: So what changed? How did you finally get on a bike?
DF: Good question. Long story short, after I had graduated from college the first time, I decided to change careers. That required going back to school and getting an entirely different degree. I was lucky enough to be able to move back to my childhood home. During those years I was very focused on school and buying a bike wasn’t on the radar. Besides, I was again living at home and my mother hadn’t changed her opinion about motorcycles or women riders. Then about two years later, I walked into this store and saw this adorable stuffed bear wearing Harley-Davidson garb. I know you're probably saying, "A stuffed toy?" But yeah, it was a stuffed toy that made me feel really excited about something again. It took me back to one of my most cherished childhood memories, and it helped me remember who I wanted to be. I was so wrapped up in the business of life, work and school, I forgot about me. So, I bought that damn bear and I looked at it every day to remind myself of that dream I had as a kid that I would one day own a bike.That day finally came. I’ll never forget it. I had finished school and was living on my own by then. It was exactly 1 year and 2 months to the day after moving out of my parents house that I bought my first motorcycle. I was 32 years old. (She laughs.) Keep in mind that I still didn't know how to ride at that time. I had to get my brother to go with me to pick it up and we took it to his house. That bike was there for 3 months while I got my permit and took a private riding class. Every weekend I would go to my brothers house and he would help me practice. Within just a few weeks my brother got me from riding in a parking lot, to riding out on the road. I haven't stopped riding since that time and it's now fifteen years later.
TWR: Wow talk about not letting go of a dream! There's a great lesson in your story. Just curious, do you still have the bear?
DF: Yes, I still have that “damn bear,” and it continues to remind me daily to never let go of my dreams.
TWR: So tell us what was your first bike, and what are you currently riding?
DF: My first bike was a 2003 Honda Shadow ACE 750cc. It was red and let me tell you I LOVED that bike more than life itself. Since then I have owned four other motorcycles. A 2002 Suzuki Volusia 800, a 1983 Honda CX 650 Custom, a 2009 Kawasaki Vulcan 1700 Classic, and a 2015 Suzuki Boulevard C50T, which is the bike I currently ride.
TWR: I am always interested to hear about other riders adventures. In that vein, what is the farthest you have ever ridden either on your own or with a group, and where did you ride to?
DF: The farthest I have ever ridden was 6,551 miles in one trip of 25 days. Of that trip I rode 1,758 miles solo. That trip was last summer and it has literally ended up being the ride of my life so far. I rode to Michigan from North Carolina to meet up with two of my friends. From there we rode west to Glacier National Park in Montana, through Wyoming, then to Yellow Stone, Devil’s Tower, and we ended up going to Sturgis Bike Week in South Dakota before I started heading home to North Carolina.
TWR: I have to agree with you. A ride like that is definitely one for the books. I haven’t ridden in Michigan or Montana yet but I have ridden in Wyoming, South Dakota and the surrounding area. It’s beautiful and a favorite riding destination of mine. I think everyone should make that trip on their bike at least once.
TWR: Alright, lets change direction here a bit. Let me ask you, is there any one woman you could say has had the most influence on you with respect to your riding?
DF: Initially I would say no because coming up as a child I never knew that very many women rode. When I got married and started having children [as I said earlier], I sold my bike because I didn't think having a family and being a woman rider really blended. But that only lasted two riding seasons before I ended up buying another bike. I just really needed to be out there. If you ride, then you understand what I'm saying. But then I started feeling guilty I was out riding instead of being with my spouse and children. As luck would have it the next year Gloria Struck published her autobiography and I read it. In it she talks about all her riding adventures across the entire country,even while having a husband and raising a family. Her book made me realize how many women riders were really out there and it helped me to see it was possible to blend my love for my family with my love of riding.
TRW: Rider or not, who was or is, the most influential woman in your life?
DF: Oh good question. For me there are several women who have been very influential. First, my mother and grandmother. I realize it may seem disingenuous to say my mother when you read about my start to riding. But her not being supportive in that area of my life is in no way representative of the many other things she supported me on in my life or all the ways she positively impacted my life. My Mom has always been one of my biggest cheerleaders and her love and guidance is fully responsible for the strong, hardworking and successful woman I am today. When I think about her and my grandmother and reflect on their lives, they both represent to me women can be feminine and also be independent, strong and empowered. They each taught me that it was okay to have a voice and stand up for what I believed and for the goals I want to achieve. Next I'd say Louise Hay, a self-development, self-empowerment leader and Cheryl Richardson who is an author and personal coach. These women are important to me because I had very low self-esteem at one point. I didn't understand my value and felt like in order to have friends I always had to bring something tangible to the table for them to like me. Louise Hay and Cheryl Richardson helped me to understand that I matter and that I am enough. They also taught me how to self-love, garner self-esteem, and the value of living a positive and successful life. My favorite quote from Louise is, “How you start your day is how you live your day, and how you live your day is how you live your life.” So now I wake up every morning doing meditation, positive affirmations, positive prayers, and express gratitude every morning.” Finally I'd say "ItchyBoots" (otherwise known as Noraly Schoenmaker) a Dutch vlogger who travels the world on two wheels. She is really an inspiration for women riders everywhere.
TRW: You really went deep there in your response. I love that you were so open about your experiences with a lack of self-esteem and confidence early on, as well as your struggle to give yourself permission to take some time for yourself. I think it will help other women reading this and struggling with some of these same issues be validated and know it will be okay.
TWR: Let me ask you, other than last summer's trip, do you have any favorite riding destinations?
DF: Locally my favorite rides are in the triangle of North Carolina, Virginia and Tennessee. I’m only a couple hours from the Blue Ridge Mountains so I will often head up there for beautiful scenery. It's also a favorite destination for my riding students.
TWR: That's a great segue to discuss your company Moto B.R.A.T. Academy, LLC. How did you decide to start a motorcycle coaching company?
DF: Well it all started in September of 2019. I got the idea for the company after I started meeting women who had taken the Motorcycle Safety Foundation (MSF) course, but didn’t feel confident enough with the skills they had learned during the course to transfer them into riding on the roadways. After being asked by several women for help or, once meeting them and offering my help, I realized that there was a real need for women to have some way to continue building their skills and confidence to get out on the road. Additionally, I would have women tell me they took the class for one reason or another, but didn’t have a motorcycle yet preventing them from practicing. I knew there was a need and I had the ability to provide the information. I decided to purchase an entry level bike, get my business license, and begin working with women who wanted to enhance their riding skills. I have found that many women prefer to have a woman teach them. At first I worked with women who wanted to learn riding skills prior to taking the motorcycle course or had failed the course and needed to obtain the skills necessary to go back and pass the course. From there the business has grown as I have developed courses for intermediate, advanced and skilled riders teaching slow maneuver training. I have also found that many women are intimidated by riding in groups with other bikers. So I now offer a course called," Introduction to Group Riding." I like to end that course with a weekend ride into the mountains.
TWR: Since beginning your company, how many women have you helped build their riding confidence?
DF: It’s been about 100 women since opening in late 2019. I am currently expanding the business and am in the process of hiring a couple of women who will be helping with training. This way we can offer more classes during the upcoming 2022 riding season and beyond. I am also looking into the possibility of expanding the business so we can offer our training in other states.
TWR: Last but not least, what advice would you give to any woman who is contemplating learning to ride and getting out there on her own bike?
DF: First, call me at Moto B.RA.T. Seriously, I’ll take your call and answer some questions to help ease your fears. Then I’ll help you find someone in your area if you are not local. Again for me this is not just about riding. It's about empowering women to feel comfortable with riding and getting out there on the road. Next, I would say absolutely take a riding course. There are some states that don't require you to take a MSF course, but that would not be my advice to anyone. Always take the course. Third, if you are looking for a bike but don’t know where to start, there is a wealth of information from women who are on women riding groups within the Facebook community for example. Most women riders are very helpful in responding to questions. Get information on different bikes via on-line or from those groups. Fourth, and I cannot stress this next point enough, do not get a bike that is too big for you to start with. Make sure you have the majority of your foot flat on the ground. Ample contact with the ground is so important in a variety of situations. Finally, the old adage "practice makes perfect" is true. Keep practicing. Do not give up. Do not judge yourself while you are learning to ride. Do not let your voice in your head tell you can't do this. Don't be quick to give up. You can do this
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TWR: I appreciate all the time Deb Foege gave to me for this interview. I had a great time learning even more about her and talking with her about her vision for the growth of her company. If you are interested in learning from Deb or want to take her up on her offer to call her with any questions, you can reach her at https://www.motobratacademy.com or call her at (919) 924-9703. Don't forget to check out her Facebook, Instagram or YouTube pages.
When I first spoke to Lisa I was immediately drawn to her. Within just a few minutes of talking it felt like she and I had been long time friends. Being one of my first interviews for the site I was a little nervous. But Lisa has a natural way of putting you at ease. Her personal story is one that needs to be heard. It's a story of living life on a side rarely seen by anyone, getting caught up in a world where life is truly hard, hitting bottom, finding redemption, love and finally peace. Her's is a story so compelling she's writing a book about it. An offering to inspire others that there is always hope.
This is my interview with Lisa.
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TWR: Lisa thank you so much for taking time out of your very busy day. I'll try not to take too much of your time.
LG: It's no problem. I'm excited to help you on this journey and be your very first "Woman Rider" interview.
TWR: Let's get to know the everyday you. Where are you from? Where do you live? What do you do for a living?
LG: Well I am originally from Longview, TX. I currently live in Rockvale, TN and I work for Pratt Recycling in the accounts payable department.
TWR: What do you currently ride?
LG: I ride a 2007 Harley-Davidson Heritage Softail. Let me tell you, I love this bike. The first time I saw her in ad for sale. I knew at that very moment she was the bike for me. She spoke to me. I bought her without ever riding her. When I bought her I didn't even have my motorcycle endorsement. My husband had to rider her home for me. As it turns out she was in great condition. We've only had to do a few minor mechanical adjustments and I had her painted that beautiful teal color. I affectionately call her "Sugar" because she is so sweet.
TWR: You can really tell you love that bike. When did you first start riding?
LG: Well that is a story in and of itself. (She laughs and you can tell this might be where her book begins.) I started riding back some 30 years ago as a passenger with a biker club. For now, we'll just leave it at that. But I got to the front of the bike in 2019 at the young age of 55. This was my mid-life crisis moment. (She laughs again.) I told my husband I wasn't getting on the back of a bike ever again. These days we both ride our own.
TWR: Can you tell me about your initial experience starting out on your own bike?
LG: It was an eye opening experience to say the least and it occurred while I was taking the riders course. On the first day of class a couple of young guys kept screwing around with their bikes. We were riding 250cc's, your typical bike they give you to use while taking the course. Well this one guy kept gunning his bike and eventually popped the clutch, ending up crashing that bike. Obviously those guys were asked to leave and they failed the course. The next day my bike is not operational. So I had to use another bike and the only one available was the wrecked bike. It was pulling to the right the entire time I was using it. It was difficult to manipulated during the various exercises we rode throughout the course, but I managed and ended up passing the course with that bike.
TWR: What is the longest distance you have ridden either on your own or with a group?
LG: By myself 270 miles in a day. But my plan is eventually to ride across the country once I retire.
TWR: Is there any one woman you could say has had the most influence on you with respect to your riding?LG: Absolutely! (She says this emphatically.) There are actually 3 women and I'd like to mention them all. First, there is my friend "Jersey." She and I have a lot in common as we both work in our respective field of accounting and both love to ride. In addition to her being highly educated, she is approachable, sincere and a down to earth person. Jersey has only been riding about 5 years herself. But watching her ride has really taught me a lot. She knows how to maneuver her bike. She has a commanding presence yet she is very respectful to others. Second is Clarissa. Like me she too only started riding a few years ago. And ride she does. She is unafraid to make experiences with her bike. I admire that in her. She is probably the only person I know that has come close to completing an Iron Butt (riding a 1000 miles in 24 hours). She has a special "fire" about her. I want Clarissa's "go, go nothing can stop me from riding" attitude. Finally I want to mention Monica. I met her on the Biker Sisterhood VIP group. Although she too has only been riding a few years, she rides with a confidence that many season riders have. This is not to be confused with being overly confident on the bike, but she is clearly skillful and relaxed when she rides. Monica is someone I believe is very knowledgeable about all things riding. I just look up to her for the person she is and the skill she brings to her riding.
TWR: Do you have any favorite riding destinations?
LG: Absolutely. I love riding in East Tennessee. It has it all. The foothills are gorgeous. There are big swinging curves and beautiful mountain roads. There is any type of ride or scenery you are looking for. Truly something for every type of rider.
TWR: Since you started riding how has it changed or enriched your life from before?
LG: In a word I describe the change as Freedom. I feel free when I am out on my bike. I would compare the feeling to a bird that has been caged up for a long period time and then suddenly free to fly and soar like it's meant to do. Now do not misunderstand my answer here. I absolutely love being married to my husband. I love my children and revel in being called Nana to all my grandchildren. But when I am on my bike, I always find a sense of clarity and empowerment that is indescribable.
TWR: What advice would you give to any woman contemplating getting out there on their own bike.
LG: I would tell them first and foremost go take a motorcycle course. Then I would say to them practice, practice, practice. And finally I'd tell them to go out there and ride. Be safe, ride and enjoy it. Life is short. Go for it!
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